Augusto Cury – entrevista

Por Antonio Carlos Rix

Carlos Rix:
Qual é a maior dor? Onde dói mais a educação do Brasil hoje? O que mais precisa?

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Durante a Bett Brasil Educar 2015

Augusto Cury:
Eu sou publicado em mais de 70 países e para mim, não apenas a educação do Brasil, mas de toda civilização moderna, está doente, formando pessoas doentes para uma sociedade doente. Porque nós tomamos o caminho contraído errado, nós bombardeamos o córtex cerebral das crianças, adolescentes e universitários com milhões de dados sobre o mundo de fora, ensinando matemática, física, química e competências profissionais nas universidades mas não os ensinamos a conhecer o mais complexo de todos os planetas, o planeta chamado “mente humana”.

Nós temos que passar da era da informação para a era do “eu como gestor da mente humana” e para desenvolver o “eu como gestor da mente humana” é fundamental não apenas ensinar as funções cognitivas como raciocínio, memória, dedução, indução, síntese, pensamento lógico.

Precisamos desenvolver uma pauta para ensinar as funções não cognitivas, quais são: pensar antes de reagir, colocar-se no lugar do outro, trabalhar perdas e frustrações, resiliência, filtrar estímulos estressantes, proteger a emoção, gerenciar ansiedade entre inúmeras outras funções não cognitivas, pensar como humanidade.

Ninguém é digno da maturidade e da saúde emocional se apenas pensa como grupo social, religioso, intelectual e político. É necessário pensarmos como família humana, irmos além, tocar a essência. Não há diferenças nos bastidores da mente entre palestinos e judeus, entre hétero e homossexuais, entre celebridades e anônimos, entre intelectuais e iletrados.

Até porque – acabei de falar numa entrevista de um grande jornal televisivo – mesmo o mendigo que perambula pelas ruas e que tem delírios que o mundo conspira contra ele, ele é tão complexo na construção de pensamentos como Einstein que produziu a Teoria da Relatividade.

Quando nós estudamos o processo de construção de pensamento, que é a última fronteira da ciência, e com muita humildade tive o privilégio de desenvolver uma das poucas teorias mundiais, durante 30 anos, sobre a natureza dos pensamentos, os fenômenos inconscientes que os constroem em milésimos de segundos e os tipos de pensamentos e o “eu como gestor da mente humana” estou claro que a nossa espécie beira as raias da inviabilidade porque não desenvolveu as funções não cognitivas mais importantes para formarmos mentes livres com uma emoção saudável.

Por isso reitero e finalizo que para plateias de juízes, no Congresso Nacional, no Supremo Tribunal Federal, em países que eu tenho dado conferências, na Romênia, na Sérvia, na Bulgária, nos Estados Unidos, na Europa… nunca nas sociedades livres houve tantos escravos num único lugar que é inadmissível sermos prisioneiros dentro de si mesmo. A população carcerária do mundo no máximo é 1% na sociedade democrática mas, como digo nos meus livros Vendedor de Sonho, Código da Inteligência e Felicidade Roubada, a população carcerária no território da emoção, ela atinge 99%.

Então fisicamente 1% está preso em presídios, em masmorras e 99% livre mas, emocionalmente 99% estão presos, encarcerados na emoção e no máximo 1% livre. Por isso nós temos que mudar a educação da era da informação para a era do eu como líder do teatro da mente humana como gestor da emoção!

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Parte de um artigo colaborativo com jornalistas de vários países em Inglês, a integra aqui.

Meus agradecimentos a Renata Lemos que gentilmente transcreveu o vídeo.

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World Formal Education Problem

​Last May (20, 21,22, 23rd) another edition of Bett Brazil Educar took place in São Paulo, Brazil. Educar is one of the most important education event in Latin America today. For four days over 18,000 visitors from all over the contry could closely follow the news and educational technological trends presented by approximately 250 exhibitors.

The event is a meeting point for educators, school adms, managers, engineers and public officials. Bett Educar promoted access to more than 165 activities that took place simultaneously in 11 auditoriums. The training activities attracted about 12,000 participants.

As a CJ and a teacher I was at home. From the first to the second day, I decided to consult people I know from many different countries about problems in education. “Where does it hurt”, I asked. “If you had to name a major problem in your county, concerning education, what would it be?

Check the answers:

Ana Carmen Foschini – Brazil.  To invest in the teacher´s formation and carrier, in order to make it more attractive and respected.

Claire Ulrich – France.  Our challenge is racial. Integrating pupils of African and Arabic descent. Islam is becoming a problem in schools too.  Islam is becoming a problem because education is based in France on a strict secular rule. The problem affects special diets, special religious festivals, etc. France is not equipped with its secular rule to deal with religious demands in the public space such a the school.

Jean K. Min – Suth Korea.  Hi there..For a country long accustomed to the universal access to basic education, the increasing polarization of the education market where only wealthy few enjoy premium service while the rest of students are increasingly deprived of an opportunity to enjoy higher education is the biggest issue currently. One survey shows that near 40% of the freshmen students of Seoul National University, the top university in South Korea, was from Gangnam, the most affluent corner of the country.

Rajen Nair – India.  Education that makes you think, provokes you to ask questions, makes us in inquisitive and less depended on rote learning to pass.

Retty N. Hakim – Indonesia.  Personally, I think the biggest challenge is to keep growing or developing our younger generation into the international standard while keeping the local wisdom such as respecting elders, helping each other, etc. The television, and the internet has delivered the western values, which is sometimes taken without filtering. Drugs is one of those traps that can ruin our youngsters.

Tim Weaver – USA.  Easy. Total control of the primary/secondard (before college) of the education system by the teach unions. Stifles new ideas and competition and their main concern are the teachers and not the kids. Need more charter schools.

I also asked Dr. Agusto Cury, a Brazilian physician, psychiatrist, psychotherapist and writer. He developed the Multifocal Theory, about the functioning of the mind and the construction process of thought.

The following is a transcript of an exclusive interview he granted during Bett Educar show where he was as one of the main panelist.

“I have been published in more than 70 countries and for me, not just the education in Brazil but of all modern civilization is sick, forming sick people for a sick society. Because we have chosen the wrong path, we bombed the cerebral cortex of children, teenagers and college students with millions of data about the outside world, teaching mathematics, physics, chemistry and professional skills in universities but we did not teach them to meet the most complex all the planets, the planet called “human mind”.

We have to move from the Information Age to the era of the “I as a manager of the human mind” and to develop the “I as a manager of the human mind” is essential not only to teach the cognitive functions such as thinking, memory, deduction, induction, synthesis , logical thinking.

We need to develop an agenda to teach non-cognitive functions, which are: think before reacting, put yourself in someone else´s shoes, work out loss and frustrations, resilience, filter stressful stimuli, protect the emotion, manage anxiety among many other functions not cognitive, think as humans.

No one is worthy of maturity and emotional health if he or she is just think as a social group, religious, intellectual and political. We need to think as a human family, go beyond, touch the essence. There are no differences in the backstage of our minds between Palestinians and Jews, hetero and homosexuals, celebrities and anonymous, intellectuals and illiterate.

Especially because as just I spoke on an interview for a large television news CO that even the beggar who roams the streets and has delusions that the world conspires against him, he is as complex in the process of his thoughts as Einstein who produced the theory of relativity.

When we study thought construction process, which is the last frontier of science, and with great humility, I have had the privilege of developing one of the few global theories, for 30 years about the nature of thoughts, unconscious phenomena that build on milliseconds and the kinds of thoughts and the “I as a manager of the human mind” It is clear to me that our species staring at the brink of impossibility because not developed non-cognitive functions most important to free minds we form with a healthy emotion.

Therefore, I reiterate, to conclude that for audiences of judges, the National Congress, the Supreme Court, in countries that I have given lectures, Romania, Serbia, Bulgaria, the United States, Europe … never in free societies there were so many slaves in one place that is inadmissible be prisoners within yourself.

The prison population in the world is no more than 1% in democratic society but, as I say in my books “Seller of Dreams”, “Intelligence and Happiness”, “The Stolen Code”, the prison population in the territory of emotion reaches 99%. Then physically 1% are trapped in prisons, in dungeons and 99% free but 99% are emotionally arrested, imprisoned on emotion and at most 1% free. So we have to change the education of the information age to the era of the self as leader of the theater of the human mind as emotion manager!”

EDUCAR 2015 – A escola dos nossos sonhos: horizontes possíveis, desafios imediatos

Terminou no último sábado (23) mais uma edição da Bett Brasil Educar, maior evento de educação da América Latina. Durante quatro dias mais de 18 mil visitantes de diversas localidades puderam acompanhar de perto as novidades em soluções e tendências educacionais e tecnológicas apresentadas por aproximadamente 250 expositores.

Na abertura sindicalistas ​e professores da rede pública ​aproveitaram o ​momento para fazer um protesto pacífico contra o governo:

​Isso não diminuiu o brilho do evento, que é o ponto de encontro anual de educadores, mantenedores de escolas, diretores, coordenadores e representantes públicos e promoveu o acesso a mais de 165 atividades, que aconteceram simultaneamente em 11 auditórios. As atividades de capacitação atraíram cerca de 12 mil congressistas.​ A ausência da mídia majoritária em geral foi notória. Educação não é pauta?!, fica a pergunta. ​

Nomes relevantes do cenário educacional brasileiro e do exterior falaram sobre Alfabetização, Comunicação e Letramento; Avaliação na Educação; Currículo na Educação; Educação da Infância; Educação Integral; Educação e Tecnologia; Educação Profissional e Tecnológica; Formação Profissional e Metodologia de Ensino; Gestão e Políticas Educacionais.

​Em meio a tanta tecnologia e informatização a empresa Supera apresentou tecnologia milenar remodelada para tratar o Déficit de Atenção com Hiperatividade (DTH):

Em termos de aplicativos os professores devem conferir a  proposta da empresa Controller, um APP colaborativo​ facilitar o seu trabalho:

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Pela primeira vez o evento dedicou um espaço exclusivo para startups em educação e tecnologia, por meio da Bett Startups, num ambiente propício para troca de experiências e networking altamente qualificado. Classapp, Diaryium, Elefante Letrado, Inédita, QG do Enem, Missão Universitário, Mupi e Kid Reports foram as empresas participantes.

Solução interessante para grandes cidades ficou por conta da solução “filho sem fila”. ​Com o sistema, pais de alunos dos colégios participantes tem mais agilidade e segurança ao buscar seus filhos. Assim que seu carro entra no perímetro demarcado pela escola basta acionar um botão no smartphone para que seu filho/a se prepare para sair. No mesmo estande outra empresa oferece Monterjoy um game para motivar crianças a cumprir com os deveres escolares. Aproveitar tecnologia para segurança e melhoria do ensino é importantíssimo. A defasagem entre o que as crianças tem acesso em casa e o que recebem na escola ainda é grande.

​Já o Espaço do Saber, propiciou um ambiente de compartilhamento das melhores práticas dos principais líderes do setor educacional. No dia 20 de maio houve uma programação voltada para as Escolas Privadas e Ensino Superior, por meio de uma série de palestras focadas em gestão. Nomes como Tatiana Portella, Secretária da Câmara de Educação Básica na ANEC; Renato Júdice, Diretor de Educação da Geekie; Valdenice Minatel, Coordenadora de Tecnologia Educacional no Colégio Dante Alighieri; Marcelo de Freitas Lopes, Coordenador de Tecnologia Educacional Weducation; Nick Thody, Head Teacher; Darren Burchall, Head of ICT Learning & Teaching; Amábile Pacios, Presidente da FENEP (Federação Nacional das Escolas Particulares); Rodrigo Capelato, Diretor Executivo do Semesp (Sindicato das Mantenedoras de Ensino Superior) e Ricardo Holz, Presidente da Associação Brasileira de Estudantes de Educação a Distância compartilharam suas experiências. No dia 21 a programação foi exclusiva para membros do CONSED (Conselho Nacional de Secretários de Educação) e no dia 22 para a UNDIME/SP (União dos Dirigentes Municipais de Educação). Esse Espaço contou com o patrocínio da Digital Pages, Mindlab, Evobooks, XD Education, Google for Education, LF Educacional, Portabilis, Sistema Etapa e Cisco/MTEL.

O ponto alto do evento, e na verdade, até um contra ponto a muitas das propostas de escolarização/educação​ oferecidas na feira,​ foi a palestra do Dr. Augusto Cury, que ele resumiu para nós com exclusividade seu conteúdo no vídeo seguinte:

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Nota fundamental: Agradecemos o trabalho de todos os assessores de imprensa e, em especial, a Leonardo Souza da assessoria do próprio evento por todos os releases e informações compartilhadas.

Education, Literacy and Literature in Brazil ( Portuguese )

Two blocks from my home, there is a bookstore. Reinaldo Pontes is a dear friend fighting to keep his family business alive – Pontes Bookstore. It is not easy to keep a bookstore open in a country where books are not very welcome as gifts by many. I have already seen the look of, “Why didn’t you give me a chocolate bar or something else,” in a couple of faces myself.
Last week I was taking some pictures of an old part of downtown Campinas, of 100-year-old two-story homes from a time when many lived downtown. Today they have all been turned into businesses of one sort or another.
 
Pontes
Pontes Bookstore, a cultural landmark downtown in Campinas.
 
While taking pictures, I decided to visit Reinaldo and his sister Eva. On Saturdays, the bookstore is open until at least noon, sometimes later. I was overjoyed to discover that Aercio Consolin, from my beloved Morungaba, a city 40 kilometers away from Campinas, was there signing his newly released book “Entreato Amoroso.” (Freely translated “Loving Interact” the title is a play on words in Portuguese that goes like “interval of loving.”) This is his sixth book, but he has also published many articles and short stories. Aercio has one book that is a collection of four short stories, which was translated into French and sold in Europe. One of the stories was turned into a movie here in Brazil.
 
Reinaldo and his sister Eva are always supporting
literature and education at Pontes Bookstore.
Reinaldo and Eva Pontes

“Entreato Amoroso,” published by Atelie Editorial (www.atelie.com.br), comes after some 18 years of silence from the author; it is very good. I wish you could all read Portuguese so you could enjoy it too. To read Aercio, you need to have very good Portuguese; I confess I had to go to the dictionary a couple of times. Aercio is original, sharp, hermetic. As one reads, one can tell that every word has been measured and so is essential and meaningful. Put in plain Portuguese a single paragraph of his would become a whole page.

I interviewed Aercio on some facts about Brazilian literary reality. He is a very qualified person to share with us really valuable information. Maybe after reading this article those of you who know French will consider reading “Iolanda et Autres Nouvelles” (HB Editions) to check out his style for yourselves. I recommend it.
Aercio in his house in Morungaba – inland in the state of Sao Paulo.
Interview with Aercio Consolin
 
What is it like to be a writer in Brazil? I am not a professional writer; I write because I like it; I need it. Literature is inside me, it is part of my life and that is my perspective. So for me the literary market is not a major concern. But for the professional writer, I can say, life is not so easy in Brazil.

Why is that so? A small percentage of our population has reading habits at all. Even literate people read very little of what we could call real literature. The biggest numbers of readers are of the functional literate people type. They can read for their day-to-day needs, yes, but won’t dream of touching a novel, for example.

What do they read? There is a large market share for self-help, religious and exoteric books, that is what they read mainly — when they do.

So does it pay to write in Portuguese? Not at all, writers live from writing but not writing only books. They write to magazines, newspapers, specialized publications, theses, short stories and articles about literature.

How about you? I write short stories and novels, but sometimes I am asked to write on a subject for some newspaper and I do. But as I said before I can afford writing for pleasure.

What do you like to write about? The Brazilian aesthetics pattern has for long been mainly focused on the northeast of Brazil, on the misery and the violence of urban areas like those of Sao Paulo, Rio and other major cities of the country — and see, not even there, in those contexts, are poverty and violence the only realities. To think like that is too narrow.

So, I focus my writing on other targets: I prefer the small communities of the inland of Brazil, especially of Sao Paulo, [which is] close to me — real microcosms that synthesize all human emotions as well. They are also real players in the whole picture of the country — unfortunately often forgotten.

What is the percentage of illiterate people in Brazil? It is something like 15 percent of the total population.

How about functional literate ones? That will amount to much more, something like 60 percent of the total population or more … Carlos, as I see it, there are, at most, 1 or 2 percent of Brazilians really interested in literature in the whole country. When you think that that would amount to some 3.5 million people only — when I say 1 or 2 percent I am actually being generous.

What is the solution for this? Education. The Brazilian government needs to invest more and more on basic education, preparation for the teachers, methodology, materials, etc. And also support for the written culture, which is just one cultural segment — I know — but it is left alone today. Go and check, for example, the number of existing public libraries — it is a shame — especially when you cross check with the population statistics, not the least compatible.

What else would you say on that matter? It is incredible, the editorial production in Brazil is amazing, enormous but its quality is questionable.

Taking into account that this interview is for an international news service what would your final words be? Well, that is interesting you remind me … You know, there is a lot of money coming from abroad to help Brazil — money for saving the forests, money for the poor, money for ecological projects and the like. I’d say it is all welcome, those are real needs many times; but for sure, it would be very good to think it all over and invest in education, at least a good cut of all that money.
Educated people will know how to take care of the forest, of social problems, and will be ecologically concerned already. So that kind investment, investing in a person’s education, really pays off.
Aercio Consolin
 Aercio autographs my copy of his new book “Entreato Amoroso”.